This is a longish podcast (18 minutes).

I start with the story of the Trump voter on Delta airlines who gave a speech and was banned for life. I thought he actually had something important to say, if we listened from a different point of view. This is the tweet I wrote about it. 

The guy ranting on @delta flight was saying (rudely) "Fuck you, I'm powerful," after his whole life hearing "Fuck you, you're powerless."

Then I talk about the three episodes of the Run-up podcast that every voter imho should listen to. 

And the reality of war, it feels great when you're starting war. Ending wars is harder. The misery lasts a long time, with lots of death and suffering. 

We have cartoon-character images of each other, that aren't real. That's how wars begin, by making enemies of people who aren't actually enemies. By objectifying people. 

It's pretty clear the new leadership wants us to be fighting with each other.

Simple things we can do -- news orgs can have shows originate from the middle of the country, Kansas, Alabama, Michigan, Utah or Arizona. Let us hear directly from the people who voted for Trump, who is on track to become the next president unless the people flex their power, again.

Interesting thought. I think any NBA coach would be a better president than the one who was elected. I explain why I think that. I think the guy on the Delta flight would be a better president! Not a joke.

There really isn't any time to waste. Trump voters, you are powerful. Your message has been received. 

Listening, now, is actually the key to digging out of the hole. Later it won't be as easy. 

PS: If you can't get through the NYT paywall, I'm told you can listen to the podcasts here.