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Re: Comcast's 250GB limit? (Scripting News)

jtyost2 — Fri, 09 May 2008 23:25:06 -0000

The problem is that how I use the internet varies greatly my amount of consumption of bandwidth. If I use it in a means whereby I consume my video via regular cable connection, this cap wouldn't matter. Also when we are talking about the backbone of the internet the bandwidth doesn't matter it is free for the isp.

Re: Coming soooooon (Scripting News)

lemon obrien — Fri, 09 May 2008 21:24:03 -0000

don't use ruby :)

Re: Obama, the Democratic nominee (Scripting News)

debi — Fri, 09 May 2008 20:34:55 -0000

God help us all............

http://reflections-in-tyme.blogspot.com/

Re: A new web service for Twitter clients (Scripting News)

Adam Fisk — Fri, 09 May 2008 17:03:50 -0000

Wow, that's a bit testy, no? Especially when the guy has a point -- REST APIs are just more usable.

I have to chalk myself up as one of the doubters on this one: Martin Fowler's First Law of Distributed Computing kicks in again and again -- Don't Distribute Your Objects. Twitter's problems are not a centralized/decentralized issue. Their problems are a lack of expertise at scaling centralized systems. They're not dealing with fundamentally different scaling issues than anyone else. They're unique because they've done it poorly. As I've elaborated on at:

http://adamfisk.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/decent...

a high volume of small messages screams centralization. Don't get me wrong, it's a cool idea theoretically, but that doesn't mean it should be implemented.

Re: Why decentralizing Twitter is so important (Scripting News)

johnbreslin — Fri, 09 May 2008 15:24:14 -0000

We've recently written a paper showing (one prototype called SMOB of) how distributed / decentralised microblogging can work: "Microblogging: A Semantic Web and Distributed Approach"

http://www.semanticscripting.org/SFSW2008/paper...

The SMOB prototype code (both the semantic microblogging publishing client and server-based web service) is available at:

http://smob.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/

See some pictures and more information on my blog post at:

http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2008/05/09/prot...

Re: Comcast's 250GB limit? (Scripting News)

Nick Johnson — Fri, 09 May 2008 15:12:28 -0000

But wouldn't you expect to pay more for 10 burgers than for 1? The amount you pay for your home connection does not cover the cost of that much dedicated bandwidth to backbone routers. Unless you're prepared to pay for a completely uncontended connection, one way or another you're paying by the traffic consume. Paying explicitly, like this, seems to me a much better scheme than everyone paying a flat rate, with those who don't use much subsidizing the small percentage of people who use way more.

Re: Comcast's 250GB limit? (Scripting News)

Nick Johnson — Fri, 09 May 2008 15:10:19 -0000

I'm astounded by those claiming "250GB is very little" and "simply unacceptable". Though I don't currently live there, I grew up in New Zealand, where even now most connections are capped at 10GB or less (often much less), after which they ratelimit you to 64k or start charging you overage fees. 10GB is not that much for a month for a 'power user'. 250GB is _piles_.

Consider how many DVDs (30-60), or how many hours of 1200kbit h.264-compressed high quality video that is (20 days worth). Now explain to me how that's 'not very much'.

Re: Obama, the Democratic nominee (Scripting News)

msandler — Fri, 09 May 2008 14:59:52 -0000

What are your thoughts on Richardson?

Re: Obama, the Democratic nominee (Scripting News)

msandler — Fri, 09 May 2008 14:58:43 -0000

Obama + Richardson = A WIn !

Re: I got something to say (Scripting News)

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Re: Obama, the Democratic nominee (Scripting News)

Mari — Fri, 09 May 2008 09:58:35 -0000

No Obama/ Clinton ticket! Kathleen Sibelius would be better and he wouldn't need a food taster with her.

Re: A new web service for Twitter clients (Scripting News)

Richard — Fri, 09 May 2008 07:33:45 -0000

I just realized that a web service is a better way to implement this than via a desktop client. A website where users can sign up with their Twitter user names and passwords and then have it poll the Twitter API every so often and update the RSS feed. That way it doesn't matter how you post to Twitter your RSS will catch everything. Personally I'd call it "Twitter Store". I don't have the time right now but if anyone is interested in taking the idea feel free.

Re: Coming soooooon (Scripting News)

Terry Storch — Fri, 09 May 2008 03:15:08 -0000

Dave, I am a fan of TwitterGram, so i am looking forward to a beautiful new version!

Re: Comments in Twitter? (Scripting News)

winson — Fri, 09 May 2008 01:32:25 -0000

That's right. I think I've been kidnapped by it.

Re: Comments in Twitter? (Scripting News)

Alex Hammer — Thu, 08 May 2008 23:25:08 -0000

The number one question perhaps, asked in so many different variations, is how conversations best do (vs. not) provide value, and what types of web services, and overlap and integration related to that, is involved in this.

Re: Comments in Twitter? (Scripting News)

sundoggy — Thu, 08 May 2008 22:08:08 -0000

"I started writing #1 in Twitter itself, and went over 140 chars before I had expressed a single idea."

Exactly why I get so fed up with Twitter; that and it's not a good medium for discussion, and it's annoying to try and follow discussions that do happen there.

Agree with Jim, that Twitter all comments and best for what it set out to do: What am I doing now, and maybe, what am I thinking now. When it goes beyond that it begins to get unmanageable unless you have a lot of time on your hands to keep up with it.

That being said, I think the Flickr and Twittergram integration are cool (and broader) applications of Twitter, but primarily because they leverage tools outside unrestricted by the 140 character count. More stuff like that would be cool.

Re: Testing Pownce public downloads (Scripting News)

dave — Thu, 08 May 2008 21:30:58 -0000

Glad you like it!

Here's the music and lyrics.

http://kids.niehs.nih.gov/lyrics/gary.htm

Dave

Re: Testing Pownce public downloads (Scripting News)

Jake Good — Thu, 08 May 2008 21:24:33 -0000

It's a shameless plug... but for podcase-serving... you could use http://drop.io

Re: Testing Pownce public downloads (Scripting News)

aac74 — Thu, 08 May 2008 21:07:23 -0000

where did you find this URL? Can't see it in the page source.

I found this in the page source:
http://pownce.com/download/local/3546330/

Because you can only find the url once you have posted you would have to post it in the comments so it could be used without being logged in. Could you not have a script create the post, then read the page source (logged in) to get the file URL, then post this URL as the first comment.

A podcatching script could then use this URL by finding it in the first comment.

Re: Testing Pownce public downloads (Scripting News)

dluebbert — Thu, 08 May 2008 20:58:18 -0000

What a crack up! Where did you get your backing track?

Re: Testing Pownce public downloads (Scripting News)

drgath — Thu, 08 May 2008 20:24:44 -0000

I'm gonna guess the reason why you have to be logged in is to prevent it from becoming what you want (a podcasting platform). Yeah, that would be very cool to have, but the bandwidth, even with S3, would be too much.

Although, the bandwidth was "too much" at one point for YouTube and look where they are today. Just depends on if Pownce wants to take off (if they have the money) or die (if they don't have the money).

The file-sharing feature of Pownce has never enticed me to use it over Twitter (I'm knowledgeable enough to host my own files), but if they all of a sudden had enclosures (which I think you have wanted for a long time with Twitter, right?) then they would actually have a feature to differentiate itself, and might win some people over.

Re: Testing Pownce public downloads (Scripting News)

dave — Thu, 08 May 2008 20:18:03 -0000

Thanks, fixed.

Re: Testing Pownce public downloads (Scripting News)

aaronsw — Thu, 08 May 2008 20:17:40 -0000

Anyone can visit http://pownce.com/download/local/8186348/ to download the MP3, even if they're not logged in.

Re: Comments in Twitter? (Scripting News)

aac74 — Thu, 08 May 2008 20:17:32 -0000

loving the disqus comment system, but when you comment on a disques comment in friendfeed does it show up in disqus?

Re: Comments in Twitter? (Scripting News)

aac74 — Thu, 08 May 2008 20:14:48 -0000

Kevin Rose said on twit that the scaling problem is more to do with the massive number of database writes rather than rails. Have relational databases been used in IM type messaging systems before ? If not maybe microblogs need to be using some other technology if they are to scale ? Comments I don't think would help scaling but neither are they a barrier.