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New skill set. Do people need a video wrangler? (What is a video wrangler??) It's writing times 10. "/>				<outline text="Ryanne: Does videoblogging have to be ME in the camera. they're writers, bperformers, photogrpahers. "/>				<outline text="some pelople just love to watch. some like to write about video blogging. lots of ways to participate."/>				<outline text="Eric:">					<outline text="You won't see me in the camera."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Jay Dedmon:">					<outline text="some peole would rather ue a camera to capture the world around them because they can't describe it in words."/>					<outline text="I think video can add to the blogging world. "/>					<outline text="important to me to start breaking down cultural and other barriers. video can do that. A guy in China can show me his world without me ever getting to understand it. we show each other our dogs and moms. empathy is created. "/>					<outline text="this net neutrality thing scares me because right when we have a sea change, it might not be there."/>					<outline text="the undercurrent of everything arund here are the social problems ... we can't agree about the facts. I don't believe what (a medium) tells me. I want direct contact."/>					</outline>				<outline text="">					<outline text="make it possible for people to create, edit on the fly... do for video blogging what typepad did for blogging. take your digital assets... lots of footage... take that info, drop it in... simpler than adobe premier."/>					<outline text="vloggercon is too insular. "/>					</outline>				<outline text="Ryanne:">					<outline text="Motionbox... dabble... other tools that are getting easier."/>					<outline text="I play video games..."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Mary Hodder:">					<outline text="I did blog something this morning about all the genres comoing up on independent sites. napsterization.com/stories"/>					<outline text="peole are making mini tv shows. creating genres. agregating and remixiing snowboarding. indy shows. interviews. remixes and match-ups. brokebackto the future remix. own music videos. it's like, they;'re identifiying with the music and remaking the videos and they're the star. not necessarily lip syncing. you don'thve to be articulate or anything to make that particular video. you can make a video blog post that 's a music video."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Ryanne:">					<outline text="is that going to make change in the world?"/>					</outline>				<outline text="Shlomo:">					<outline text="is it relevant... it really is both. most powerful part of why I do one on one is not media literacy issue. people playhing with the tools..;"/>					<outline text="do people understand the motives of the blogs they read? how many are paid? "/>					<outline text="not seen too much (shilling) in the video blogging world."/>					<outline text="wonder how much literacy is an aspect of this. who is making these images?"/>					</outline>				<outline text="ryanne:">					<outline text="you can make a music video, but you'r e also learning by doing yourself."/>					<outline text="pelple already know the language of video because you see these things. "/>					</outline>				<outline text="shlomo:">					<outline text="looking at the right-wing ... looks good in a n organic videobloggy kind of way... but..."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Erik from Podslug">					<outline text="Tech crunch versus rocketboom...  (Mike looks quizzical)..."/>					<outline text="how do we make money?"/>					</outline>				<outline text="Ryanne:">					<outline text="what I do is very personal..."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Jay:">					<outline text="I hlope to hear from other people here.."/>					<outline text="what's important is, video is very special. most of us consume it, but don't produce it. now we produce it. I hope that video on the web continues to be molded by the blogging role."/>					<outline text=" versus what I fear: TV on the interent. MTV opens the floodgates."/>					</outline>				<outline text="robert:">					<outline text="money aspect, integrity..."/>					<outline text="weber grills has a website where they shoot video about how much they love their grills..."/>					<outline text="shoot your kind of video... "/>					</outline>				<outline text="Dave:">					<outline text="will there be a super video company? a Weblogs Inc. for video blogging? that they'll be more than stars. excecutives, too? is it rocketboom? is rocketboom amanda, or what?"/>					</outline>				<outline text="Erik:">					<outline text="Amanda has 300K views per day. "/>					<outline text="I believe she'll be distributing all of us."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Shlomo:">					<outline text="Rociketboom is andrew's network. but amanda is in hollywood now..."/>					</outline>				<outline text="jay:">					<outline text="cable tv was supposeed to be where you made TV. It was &quot;public access&quot;. cable TV agreed because they knew it woiuld be meaningless. because the peoplle out there didn'thave the means to compete with the other 39 channels."/>					<outline text="they agreed because it wsn't a serious threat."/>					<outline text="this really isn't that."/>					<outline text="when it happens, it seems that the earlier chapter of bloggin g,.... two ways it can go."/>					<outline text="one is reproduce the systmem we3 have now, only it opens to more players. Like the peple at rocketboom. not fundamental changbe, but diffrent players."/>					<outline text="other is deeper change when people just stop watching televisions. people just watch commercial TV, becauswe they're making their own..."/>					<outline text="because they spend less time in front of the t5ube..."/>					<outline text="time is not being wasted the same wayu..."/>					<outline text="commodification of time changes becasue we're not looking to make money off what we're watching or producing."/>					<outline text="the people formerly known as the audience... w"/>					<outline text="when people pick up their cameras"/>					</outline>				<outline text="Lisa Williams: ">					<outline text="in defense of local access cable TV... it's vital, and it may be cut if legislation passes..."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Doc:">					<outline text="the best quality video will come from each other. soon."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Ryanne:">					<outline text="I love american idol, but american idol doesn't lvoe you."/>					<outline text="a lot of us came from public access. Jay just left that to move here. You feel this power. i get to make my own show, gets seen by 20 people."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Eric:">					<outline text="audience may grow from 20 to 20k in a month."/>					<outline text="i don't know about the people in this room, but I'm a bleedimng edge guy, and I got rid of my TV this month. that's where we're heading. I produce and consume video. On my computer. If there's something on commercial TV I want, I'll buy it, or watch it on Youtube."/>					<outline text="we don't need a weblogs inc for videoblogging because the networks are already out there. they have the traffic coming to them. "/>					<outline text=""/>					</outline>				<outline text="jaY">					<outline text="jay rosen's point is right. this is scary to the people in power. video affects what we think so strongly. thyey didn't bring up net neutrality when text bloggting came along. why now? I'd like to know if I'm wrong on that"/>					</outline>				<outline text="andy:">					<outline text="we;re going to see a lot more text blogs, but it's not easy to produ ce 30 minutes of good video. but we will see more good production over time. if you only have 10 peole watching, it will be the right ten peoploe. what matters isn't how much. it's who. If yoiu get the right 500 people to tune in an d wach you, it's a home run."/>					</outline>				<outline text="jake:">					<outline text="yes, youtube and other video sites, ahve lots you can watch. butyou need pacemakers who can help you discover what to watch. you can scan text faster."/>					<outline text="there need to be people you trust to help you discover things you might like."/>					<outline text="intelligent agents for each other"/>					</outline>				<outline text="Ryanne:">					<outline text="i feel like a scientist up here"/>					<outline text="people are like filters. "/>					</outline>				<outline text="Mary:">					<outline text="conf at wnet. interesting. kara something , new pres or ceo of PBS. did the keynote. spent the day talking about what we watch and make online. theythou=ght they had the key to all the good stuff.  then she gets up and speaks and tells them that they can't make the distinction between elite and the rest of us. the only thing that pbs has is community. all of their programming is done by people who live in the community and know their enthusiasts. who sendsw the money. ABC and HBO don't have that."/>					<outline text="while the folks there didn't nikow wht to do with rogue video bloggers, this CEO got the piece that community matters. but doubt that the big guys get that."/>					</outline>				<outline text="LisaW:">					<outline text="I'm fascinated by the video blogging community."/>					<outline text="I thinik that podcasters are the odd people out. they[ seem more interesed in commercialism and production value. seem more interested in joining than fighting radio."/>					<outline text="bloggers and vloggers seem to have more in commojn. fight oriented. versus hug oriented. "/>					</outline>				<outline text="Dave:">					<outline text="that's total crap"/>					</outline>				<outline text="Lisa:">					<outline text="ok"/>					</outline>				<outline text="Shlomo:">					<outline text="you get a mix of all these different kinds of people"/>					<outline text="media literacy... all kind of the same thing."/>					<outline text="not about the content part... it's too early. bloggers have outgrown that issue... "/>					<outline text="podcasters have a love hatefest that's at this stage"/>					</outline>				<outline text="Ryanne:">					<outline text="last thing I said at vloggercon was that I loved their passion for creating."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Steve:">					<outline text="I resnent the attack on my... production values,. (he has none)"/>					</outline>				<outline text="Dave:">					<outline text="I did two video blog posts... econd was about chris making stupid faces..."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Erik from Podslug:">					<outline text="audio quality... arrington's cell phone."/>					</outline>				<outline text="shlomo: ">					<outline text="where i got into video blogging was I saw a post on boingboing where something on fire ants... was a communityof video bloggers..."/>					</outline>				<outline text="ryanne:">					<outline text="booston, zoom on public tv. influenced as a kid. done in a studio..."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Eric:">					<outline text="production values changes the way people respond to it. with lower production values, pelple respond to the production quality. "/>					</outline>				<outline text="Dave:">					<outline text="that's the priesthood. steve did a podcast with a guy from NPR, and the guy said we're safe from podcasters because they don't have any production values. You'r saying in order for anybody to watch my video yuou have to put prod values into it."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Eric:">					<outline text="I'm not saying that. the only barrier is time. theyh can see over time..."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Ryanne:">					<outline text="Prod values are up to you. One guy named anthony who would smoke pot in front of his camera all day and everybody watched..."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Dave Man...">					<outline text="i've done the public access thing. we want to be on the moment. two and a half weeks later at 5am ... "/>					<outline text="then I threw away the cameras and the final cut pro. put it in crappy form. bands get recorded good and want you to make it sound shitty."/>					<outline text="If something reminds you of TV... "/>					<outline text="it's gonna be a different scene and all bets are off."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Ryanne:">					<outline text="there are times when I;'m walking "/>					</outline>				<outline text="shlomo:">					<outline text="how maqny bloggers do we bust for lack of spell checkers?"/>					<outline text="use yoiur crappy hi-8. make something workth listening to and watching."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Buzz:">					<outline text="where the the porn video bloggers"/>					</outline>				<outline text="others">					<outline text="soccergirl, singledad. xvideo. suicidegirls."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Erik">					<outline text="what's thje bill, how are they hosting?"/>					</outline>				<outline text="Jay:">					<outline text="what do we want video to add to this world... "/>					<outline text="two years later, it's so exciting. I hear all these questions and concerns. it's the wild west right now. everybody is trying to figure it out, and nobody knows."/>					<outline text="if you had everytihng you wanted, what would you want it to be."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Doc:">					<outline text="want the vast directory for everything. without a silo."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Shlomo:">					<outline text="there are people talking about this. this is becoming a real Voltron. (a japanimaiton thing) many little companies to fight the google beast."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Niall:">					<outline text="tlak about what's involved in making a videoblog."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Ryanne:">					<outline text="I run freevlog.org. people use all different things. It's up to yoiu. things are cheap."/>					<outline text="you probably have editing sofrtware on your computer."/>					<outline text="also ourmedia.org/learningcenter"/>					</outline>				<outline text="Susan Mernit:">					<outline text="families documenting their children"/>					<outline text="some kind of livejournal or easyjournal or some kind of ..."/>					<outline text="what needs to be put in place to make that happen. knowledge, not technology."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Ryanne:">					<outline text="it's just access to knowledge. Shlomo, jay and I are part of node101... my mom videoblogs because i taught her."/>					</outline>				<outline text="jake:">					<outline text="beenwriting fvor over 5 years. the big missing piece is getting it onto the web easily. ultimately people need a publish to the web feature... sort of some crappy solutions that exist to do that."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Dave M:">					<outline text="we don't understand all the ins and outs."/>					<outline text="the bigger problem is the social network discovery mechanism via metadata. we know from podcasting and Rss we can decentralize. so that if you're tagged at myspace it will show up in odeo."/>					<outline text="we track the internet by the human filter. find where peole hang out."/>					<outline text="most important part that we can traverse is all these walled garden. getting the data back to the person's own feed area. so the communty can build on the tagging and the info."/>					</outline>				<outline text="shlomo:">					<outline text="biggest barrier to entry is the whole compression issue. won't change anytime soon. all about money and walling things into constructs. "/>					</outline>				<outline text="ryanne:">					<outline text="codecs are a big choice. needd a starting point from which to customize."/>					</outline>				<outline text="c hris:">					<outline text="when ponzi was looking for a way to get onto ... she hooked onto picasa. but there is a way you can upload your video instantly into google video. will acclellerat eht erate of adption..."/>					</outline>				<outline text="robert:">					<outline text="was on the phone with cspan last week. worked out a deal with google because they're building in a DRM and royalty system.."/>					</outline>				<outline text="ERik:">					<outline text="the codec is the silo. .ogg is the way out."/>					</outline>				<outline text="mary:">					<outline text="problem with interop is that the little companies.. video ? are talking to each other so you can pull data out...  the other side of it is to go and ask fo rwhat you want from specific companies. a frustration with companies is that those places don't think it's a priority. they need to think theyu're doing it for enough peolle that it matters."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Ryanne:">					<outline text="some places, like blip.tv, are geeks and will listen."/>					</outline>				<outline text="marc:">					<outline text="excitied about i-tags. I happen to like the tag &quot;reggae&quot;. so I click there and see everything tagged that way."/>					</outline>				<outline text="Sean:">					<outline text="what's the most successful format that will reach the most people?Lowest common denominator."/>					</outline>				<outline text="ryanne:">					<outline text="mpeg4 . I recommend athat always. whether in wav or mov. that's the safe one. but I might gtet pummelled for that."/>					</outline>				<outline text="jake">					<outline text="Mpeg4 is a container with many implementations. some have been twisted by different companies."/>					</outline>				</outline>			<outline text="done"/>			</outline>		</body>	</opml>