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Dave, here's where I am in the Frontier/Perl thing.
From: raster@execpc.com;
Sent at Thu, 09 Apr 1998 18:19:36 +0000 (GMT);
Frontier and PerlUsing the MacPerl suite, I can call a perl script with parameters, and recieve back a response. This is cool. But it could be so much cooler!
MacPerl should be OSA, we should be able to store our scripts in the ODB, it should be as transparent as AppleScript. The MacPErl suite I have is dated April 1996, I'm not sure if it's been abandoned, or it's perfect ;)
I've been able to call a cgi in Frontier that then calls a Perl script, returns the data to Frontier and then back to the client. I don't know if this is useful, but I thought it was neat.
Anyway, I'd really like to see Perl (all flavors) work with Frontier, win-win eh?
I don't look at the Java issue as a Sun or Microsoft issue but rather a customer and ISV issue. I still think ISVs and customers find a very compelling value proposition in being able to deploy an application or a piece of middleware across a heterogeneous environment.
From: tschlein@kpcb.com (Ted Schlein);
Sent at Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:55:34 -0700;
Re:The Java BalloonPicture the ISV that comes into a corporate customer and answers yes to whether they can be deployed on Unix, Windows, or some other variant or all of the above. Not necessarily on the client but on the server whether that server is a typical NT or Solaris box or a 390 or AS/400. Integrating these systems is a very powerful feature and benefit.
As for clientside deployment, you can either go through and debug for each VM, which have numerous ISV's that have done it quite successfully or you can pick a VM and debug for it. In many caes you might pick the MSFT VM since it resides on most clients. As long as it works well, customers are not going to care.
So I think Sun can still win, not with total dominance of the server market but by supplying high performance servers that run Java services and applications extremely quickly and reliably. This does not mean that Microsoft loses but it does mean that customers win. I think the next big hurdle will be how good HotSpot really is.
