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We won in Iraq, a long time ago

Tuesday, July 22, 2008 by Dave Winer.

A picture named tilted.jpgI know this goes without saying, but it keeps coming up. Permalink to this paragraph

Remember when our troops marched into Baghdad, took the place over, drove Saddam into a hole and arrested or killed the government. Then we disbanded their army.  Permalink to this paragraph

When you go to war that's what victory looks like.  Permalink to this paragraph

Then came the occupation. There is no such thing as winning an occupation. You either continue to occupy or withdraw. It's semantic nonsense to apply the verb "win" to the noun "occupation." Permalink to this paragraph

Winning in war or sport is not vague or ill-defined. When the clock runs out in football the team that's ahead wins. When two runners are in a race the first to cross the finish line wins. When you fight a war, when you take the other guys' capital and disband their government and army, that's winning. Permalink to this paragraph

As I said it goes without saying, but it keeps coming up in the news, this weird idea that there is such a thing as winning an occuption, when there isn't. Permalink to this paragraph

Update: Cross-posted at Huffington. Permalink to this paragraph


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