Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:09:14 GMT Mon, 20 Feb 2012 01:31:46 GMT Dave Winer dave.winer@gmail.com 1 1 186 1385 1177 2328 <script> function ec (id, showClassName, urlExpand, urlCollapse) { var imgId = 'img_'+ id; if (document.getElementById (id).className == 'hide') { document.getElementById (id).className = showClassName; document.getElementById (imgId).src = urlCollapse; } else { document.getElementById (id).className = 'hide'; document.getElementById(imgId).src = urlExpand; } } </script> <style> .divOutlineBody { padding: 0; margin-left: -16px; } .divOutlineList { margin-left: 0; padding-left: 0; text-indent: 0; } .divOutlineItem { margin-left: 16px; } .spanOutlineText { cursor: pointer; float: none; margin-left: 0; color: black; } .show { display: block; } .hide { display: none; } img.expandIcon { position: relative; left: -16px; margin-right: -16px; padding: 0; border: 0; height: 16px; width: 16px; } </style> <div class="divOutlineBody"> <div class="divOutlineList" style="padding-left: 0;"> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">As you may know, I push links through my <a href="http://static.reallysimple.org/users/dave/linkblog.xml">linkblog feed</a> and through <a href="http://twitter.com/davewiner">Twitter</a>. Please subscribe to one or both. </span><a name="asYouMayKnowIPushLinksThroughMyAHrefhttpstaticreallysimpleorgusersdavelinkblogxmllinkblogFeedaAndThroughAHrefhttptwittercomdavewinertwitteraPleaseSubscribeToOneOrBoth">&nbsp;</a><a href="#asYouMayKnowIPushLinksThroughMyAHrefhttpstaticreallysimpleorgusersdavelinkblogxmllinkblogFeedaAndThroughAHrefhttptwittercomdavewinertwitteraPleaseSubscribeToOneOrBoth"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">Sometimes I push a link that gets retweeted a lot. I appreciate that in the New Twitter UI it's easy to see who retweets. And as I result I can see which ones are heavily retweeted. </span><a name="sometimesIPushALinkThatGetsRetweetedALotIAppreciateThatInTheNewTwitterUiItsEasyToSeeWhoRetweetsAndAsIResultICanSeeWhichOnesAreHeavilyRetweeted">&nbsp;</a><a href="#sometimesIPushALinkThatGetsRetweetedALotIAppreciateThatInTheNewTwitterUiItsEasyToSeeWhoRetweetsAndAsIResultICanSeeWhichOnesAreHeavilyRetweeted"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">I pushed a link to an article that said that designers are ruining the web. I don't agree, but I thought it was well-written and thoughtful, and made a point that could use a fresh look. </span><a name="iPushedALinkToAnArticleThatSaidThatDesignersAreRuiningTheWebIDontAgreeButIThoughtItWasWellwrittenAndThoughtfulAndMadeAPointThatCouldUseAFreshLook">&nbsp;</a><a href="#iPushedALinkToAnArticleThatSaidThatDesignersAreRuiningTheWebIDontAgreeButIThoughtItWasWellwrittenAndThoughtfulAndMadeAPointThatCouldUseAFreshLook"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">John Naughton: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/feb/19/john-naughton-webpage-obesity">Graphic designers are ruining the web</a>.</span><a name="johnNaughtonAHrefhttpwwwguardiancouktechnology2012feb19johnnaughtonwebpageobesitygraphicDesignersAreRuiningTheWeba">&nbsp;</a><a href="#johnNaughtonAHrefhttpwwwguardiancouktechnology2012feb19johnnaughtonwebpageobesitygraphicDesignersAreRuiningTheWeba"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">What I think is true -- bad design makes the web ugly, slow and hard to use. How bad design comes about is uncertain, but it's not always designers that are responsible. It could just as easily be bad clients or bosses. Or programmers who don't work well with their designers. Etc.</span><a name="whatIThinkIsTrueBadDesignMakesTheWebUglySlowAndHardToUseHowBadDesignComesAboutIsUncertainButItsNotAlwaysDesignersThatAreResponsibleItCouldJustAsEasilyBeBadClientsOrBossesOrProgrammersWhoDontWorkWellWithTheirDesignersEtc">&nbsp;</a><a href="#whatIThinkIsTrueBadDesignMakesTheWebUglySlowAndHardToUseHowBadDesignComesAboutIsUncertainButItsNotAlwaysDesignersThatAreResponsibleItCouldJustAsEasilyBeBadClientsOrBossesOrProgrammersWhoDontWorkWellWithTheirDesignersEtc"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">A bunch of responses in tweets say it's not true, but, in 140 chars all you can do is grunt or snort. Nothing other than a primal scream or two. No! Not true! Arrrgh!</span><a name="aBunchOfResponsesInTweetsSayItsNotTrueButIn140CharsAllYouCanDoIsGruntOrSnortNothingOtherThanAPrimalScreamOrTwoNoNotTrueArrrgh">&nbsp;</a><a href="#aBunchOfResponsesInTweetsSayItsNotTrueButIn140CharsAllYouCanDoIsGruntOrSnortNothingOtherThanAPrimalScreamOrTwoNoNotTrueArrrgh"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">I said people should write a blog post stating the other side. And one did. Well thought-out, reasonable, respectful. So I pushed a link back out the same way the other one went. </span><a name="iSaidPeopleShouldWriteABlogPostStatingTheOtherSideAndOneDidWellThoughtoutReasonableRespectfulSoIPushedALinkBackOutTheSameWayTheOtherOneWent">&nbsp;</a><a href="#iSaidPeopleShouldWriteABlogPostStatingTheOtherSideAndOneDidWellThoughtoutReasonableRespectfulSoIPushedALinkBackOutTheSameWayTheOtherOneWent"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">Jamie Forrest: <a href="http://jamieforrest.com/2012/02/19/no-graphic-designers-arent-ruining-the-web/">No, Graphic Designers Aren't Ruining The Web</a>.</span><a name="jamieForrestAHrefhttpjamieforrestcom20120219nographicdesignersarentruiningthewebnoGraphicDesignersArentRuiningTheWeba">&nbsp;</a><a href="#jamieForrestAHrefhttpjamieforrestcom20120219nographicdesignersarentruiningthewebnoGraphicDesignersArentRuiningTheWeba"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> <div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">The web works, badly designed or not! :-)</span><a name="theWebWorksBadlyDesignedOrNot">&nbsp;</a><a href="#theWebWorksBadlyDesignedOrNot"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div> </div> </div>