Contraception vs the death penalty
Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:13:46 GMT
Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:52:13 GMT
Dave Winer
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<div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">I understand that the Catholic Church doesn't want to pay for insurance for its employees that includes coverage for contraception, even though they are required to do so by law. I take them at their word that it's a matter of conscience. With the Republicans, who have made this their issue, I have doubts about it being about conscience. But I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, for the sake of argument.</span><a name="iUnderstandThatTheCatholicChurchDoesntWantToPayForInsuranceForItsEmployeesThatIncludesCoverageForContraceptionEvenThoughTheyAreRequiredToDoSoByLawITakeThemAtTheirWordThatItsAMatterOfConscienceWithTheRepublicansWhoHaveMadeThisTheirIssueIHaveDoubtsAboutItBeingAboutConscienceButImWillingToGiveThemTheBenefitOfTheDoubtForTheSakeOfArgument"> </a><a href="#iUnderstandThatTheCatholicChurchDoesntWantToPayForInsuranceForItsEmployeesThatIncludesCoverageForContraceptionEvenThoughTheyAreRequiredToDoSoByLawITakeThemAtTheirWordThatItsAMatterOfConscienceWithTheRepublicansWhoHaveMadeThisTheirIssueIHaveDoubtsAboutItBeingAboutConscienceButImWillingToGiveThemTheBenefitOfTheDoubtForTheSakeOfArgument"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div>
<div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2012/02/24/shrug.gif" width="125" height="178" border="0" style="float: right; padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-top: 5px; padding-right: 5px;" alt="A picture named shrug.gif">The death penalty is also a matter of conscience for a lot of Americans. It's abhorrent to them that people be killed in the name of justice, especially when some of these people are innocent. As one of these people, myself, it's a horror not only that they're being killed or murdered in my name, but also that, through my taxes, I have to pay for it. </span><a name="imgSrchttpscriptingcomimages20120224shruggifWidth125Height178Border0StylefloatRightPaddingleft5pxPaddingbottom5pxPaddingtop5pxPaddingright5pxAltaPictureNamedShruggiftheDeathPenaltyIsAlsoAMatterOfConscienceForALotOfAmericansItsAbhorrentToThemThatPeopleBeKilledInTheNameOfJusticeEspeciallyWhenSomeOfThesePeopleAreInnocentAsOneOfThesePeopleMyselfItsAHorrorNotOnlyThatTheyreBeingKilledOrMurderedInMyNameButAlsoThatThroughMyTaxesIHaveToPayForIt"> </a><a href="#imgSrchttpscriptingcomimages20120224shruggifWidth125Height178Border0StylefloatRightPaddingleft5pxPaddingbottom5pxPaddingtop5pxPaddingright5pxAltaPictureNamedShruggiftheDeathPenaltyIsAlsoAMatterOfConscienceForALotOfAmericansItsAbhorrentToThemThatPeopleBeKilledInTheNameOfJusticeEspeciallyWhenSomeOfThesePeopleAreInnocentAsOneOfThesePeopleMyselfItsAHorrorNotOnlyThatTheyreBeingKilledOrMurderedInMyNameButAlsoThatThroughMyTaxesIHaveToPayForIt"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div>
<div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">So, if we're to establish a new precedent that Americans should not be required to pay for things they find morally abhorrent, then the death penalty is going to have be funded some other way, not through public money. </span><a name="soIfWereToEstablishANewPrecedentThatAmericansShouldNotBeRequiredToPayForThingsTheyFindMorallyAbhorrentThenTheDeathPenaltyIsGoingToHaveBeFundedSomeOtherWayNotThroughPublicMoney"> </a><a href="#soIfWereToEstablishANewPrecedentThatAmericansShouldNotBeRequiredToPayForThingsTheyFindMorallyAbhorrentThenTheDeathPenaltyIsGoingToHaveBeFundedSomeOtherWayNotThroughPublicMoney"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div>
<div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">PS: It seems the Catholic Church would agree, btw -- since <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_capital_punishment">they oppose</a> the death penalty. I wonder why they haven't refused to pay taxes until the government gets out of the business of killing its own citizens.</span><a name="psItSeemsTheCatholicChurchWouldAgreeBtwSinceAHrefhttpenwikipediaorgwikicatholicchurchandcapitalpunishmenttheyOpposeaTheDeathPenaltyIWonderWhyTheyHaventRefusedToPayTaxesUntilTheGovernmentGetsOutOfTheBusinessOfKillingItsOwnCitizens"> </a><a href="#psItSeemsTheCatholicChurchWouldAgreeBtwSinceAHrefhttpenwikipediaorgwikicatholicchurchandcapitalpunishmenttheyOpposeaTheDeathPenaltyIWonderWhyTheyHaventRefusedToPayTaxesUntilTheGovernmentGetsOutOfTheBusinessOfKillingItsOwnCitizens"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div>
<div class="divOutlineItem" style="padding-bottom: 10px;"><span class="spanOutlineText" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 18px; line-height: 140%;">PPS: Ooops. I didn't realize that <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=churches+don't+pay+taxes">churches don't pay taxes</a>. So why then don't they STFU about paying for moral things. They don't pay, we do. I don't see where they have any say in it. </span><a name="ppsOoopsIDidntRealizeThatAHrefhttpswwwgooglecomsearchqchurchesdontpaytaxeschurchesDontPayTaxesaSoWhyThenDontTheyStfuAboutPayingForMoralThingsTheyDontPayWeDoIDontSeeWhereTheyHaveAnySayInIt"> </a><a href="#ppsOoopsIDidntRealizeThatAHrefhttpswwwgooglecomsearchqchurchesdontpaytaxeschurchesDontPayTaxesaSoWhyThenDontTheyStfuAboutPayingForMoralThingsTheyDontPayWeDoIDontSeeWhereTheyHaveAnySayInIt"><img src="http://scripting.com/images/2001/09/20/sharpPermaLink3.gif" class="imgBlogpostPermalink" width="6" height="9" border="0" alt="permalink"></a></div>
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