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SCNS for SOAP 1.1: "Earlier this week we released Radio 8.0.4 with support for Simple Cross-Network Scripting. At the time we released a driver for XML-RPC, promising a driver for SOAP 1.1 later in the month. It's ready now." 

Seth Dillingham reviews SCNS. "SCNS was promised years ago, but since then a number of us had almost given up on it. Some things, though, are worth waiting for." 

Mike Donnellan's evil preacher!Simon Fell wrote a script that takes a WSDL and creates a folder structure of scripts in Radio's Macros folder, making it easy to call WSDL-defined SOAP services from Radio 8. He used the WSDL parser that's part of .NET. Bing. 

Charles Cooper: "Unfortunately, the outsized influence wielded by the big software concerns means the voices of independent developers are getting harder and harder to hear." 

I've got a yearning to go skiing. It's been a couple of years. I wonder if any Rocky Mountain ski resorts have great Internet connectivity? My favorite resort is Vail. I wonder if they have a T1 line. Fernando Pereira says Vail is boring. But I like boring! 

Thanks to Glenn for the pointer to this fantastic Flash hack

InfoWorld's top technologies for 2001. Web Services is #1. 

The 2001 Turing Award goes to Ole-Johan Dahl and Kristen Nygaard of Norway "for their role in the invention of object-oriented programming." 

Andy Sylvester started a directory of Radio 8 resources.  

A bunch of fixes in upstreaming released on Wednesday. 

Michael Kinsley: "There are some actual world leaders at Davos, but for most participants it is world leader fantasy camp." 

Chris Double: "Woohoo! My first webservice works." DIY! 

A picture named great.gifI called Chris's webservice from DHRB. It's funny how my other weblog has become my command line. Now you can read my site to find out about horse races in Chris's homeland. That's certainly some variety. Also David Davies got stung by a bug in our Mac Classic app. We're going to take a look. David is leading us in DIY web services.  

Remember the story about mainframes and how well-intentioned people thought that users couldn't be trusted with their own data. Then came the Apple II. We're back there again. We're going to get bruised for sure, remember when you were a kid and learned how to ride a bicycle. But fear is frozen fun. Inch by inch. DIY DIY DIY. 

BTW, the philosophy of DIY says that you DI whatever way makes sense to Y. 

DIY, Do It Yourself.It's time for a disclosure. This foray into DIY has gotten the conversation with Microsoft restarted. It's been too long since we collaborated on this stuff. UserLand remembers well how all this web services stuff started. We've never hesitated to say that equal credit goes to the brilliant and courageous people at Microsoft who believed in this stuff. Why do I keep saying that Web Services are not just the province of the Big's? Because they say they are, in so many ways. It's totally not fair for us to have to fight for the right to innovate the stuff we started. I wouldn't have to keep saying that if they didn't route around us. Anyway now that seems to be over, so we can be softer and more generous. They're intrigued by what we're doing here. That's good. I want to make sure Web Services work for Web Developers. When I say it that way, the Mind of Microsoft gets interested. There's our win-win. 

That's why I made sure to give Bill Gates proper credit in my last piece. It's true that he inspired me to work on scripting user-oriented apps. Then we infected Apple with the idea, so counter to conventional wisdom, sometimes Microsoft does the innovating and Apple sometimes copies them. Heh. How about that for irony? 

A picture named eli.gifMore evidence that the tune is changing. No longer are we the unwashed masses yearning to be taught the true path to enlightenment by the C developers, now they're pleading with us to help them work around limits in their crippled environments. Heh. Now don't go overboard. But the self-deprecation is appreciated. One of our mottos is It's Even Worse Than It Appears. We are all members of the Church of Murphy, whether we use static or dynamic environments.  

Mass High Tech: ArsDigita closes, sells assets to Red Hat

On this day last year we got our first non-UserLand SOAP validation. It was Simon Fell's PocketSoap. The beginning of a productive friendship. 

Googlewhack, Googlewhack, Googlewhack, Googlewhack.  

SJ Merc and Linkrot 

A picture named dangillmor.gifDan Gillmor is a friend. That's a disclaimer. Another disclaimer, we at one point partnered with his organization to get Dan's writing on the Web.

Dan is always railing on how the computer and software industry cares not one bit about users. I think he goes overboard on that. Now it's time for Dan to turn his jets on his own organization for one more time breaking all links into his Web writing.

The Merc was one of the pioneers of Web journalism, one of the first sites in the early days. That's the good news. The bad news is that every time they transition their internal system (and they do it often) they break every pointer into the old versions of their content.

Even so I will continue to point to Dan, where ever they move him this time or next or whatever. But all those broken links in my archives are a reminder that it's hard to do what we do, and maybe if Dan doesn't dig into his own organization and shed some light on their processes, perhaps in the future, he will be kinder to other software developers.

How bad is it? Uhh the feedback form on Dan's site is a broken link.

Steve Zellers: "Why did they change the Mercury News format? I had been so happy."

Reader comments on the changes in Dan Gillmor's weblog. He characterizes them as not friendly, but these people like you Dan, and they're perplexed. My feedback. I want your blog to be at dangillmor.com, now and forever, and it's OK with me if you link to the Merc, but I come there for you, not RealCities (whatever that is) or SiliconValley.Com (ditto). Remember when Lycos bought Wired News. WTF is Lycos. (Answer: an also-ran search engine, that turned into a meaningless conglomerate of websites owned by CMGI then a Spanish portal.) I would prefer if Wired appeared to own Lycos, makes more sense to me. And in my mind Dan Gillmor is far more important than every other thing in the Knight-Ridder empire. I wish they'd get a clue and let you gain some momentum with an easy to remember URL, simple weblog-style features, and no linkrot so the archives keep working. Dan you say things that belong on the record. When they get lost, we lose our context.

     

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